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		<title>By: Passionflower</title>
		<link>http://thestormypresentsports.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/boston-doesn%e2%80%99t-deserve-it/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Passionflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit.

cheers, Passionflower!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Anyway &#8230; nice blog to visit.</p>
<p>cheers, Passionflower!</p>
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		<title>By: Hitler&#8217;s Wet Dream &#171; The Stormy Present</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hitler&#8217;s Wet Dream &#171; The Stormy Present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] beat the crap out of the Lakers despite the fact that I wrote a post that specifically detailed why Boston Doesn&#8217;t Deserve It. Oh well, at least David Ortiz is still out with his (steroids related) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] beat the crap out of the Lakers despite the fact that I wrote a post that specifically detailed why Boston Doesn&#8217;t Deserve It. Oh well, at least David Ortiz is still out with his (steroids related) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
		<link>http://thestormypresentsports.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/boston-doesn%e2%80%99t-deserve-it/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 10:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think the fact that you made me think about who I&#039;d take over PP made me realize that he actually is one of the better non bigs in the NBA. My problem with him is that he&#039;ll have one big game and then follow it with a game where he shoots 1 for 19. Again, I liken that to Allen Iverson.

But to the original point of my post, what bothers me is not that the Celtics aren&#039;t good and deserving of attention, they are. And it isn&#039;t that Paul Pierce and KG aren&#039;t good and deserving of attention, they are (Ray Allen isn&#039;t). What bothers me is that the Celtics, PP, and KG get soooo overhyped bc the sports media loves Boston. And their love of Boston overshines the fact that PP, in my mind, isn&#039;t clutch (that is debatable, but I need someone to explain to me why in game 7 he didn&#039;t take the clutch shot and instead PJ Brown did for me to believe that he wants the ball in his hands when the game is on the line). It overshines the fact that KG disappears in the final minutes bc he&#039;s too unselfish. It overshines the fact that Rivers is a horrific coach and that when he throws Rondo under the bus KG, the supposed leader, doesn&#039;t stick up for Rondo. And it overshines the fact that they didn&#039;t need Cassell.

There are certainly plenty of die hard Boston fans, but the overhyped thing around those teams leads to the non-informed bandwagon fans demanding that they pick up Sam Cassell when all the knoledgable real fans are aware that Sam I am isn&#039;t an upgrade from Rondo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think the fact that you made me think about who I&#8217;d take over PP made me realize that he actually is one of the better non bigs in the NBA. My problem with him is that he&#8217;ll have one big game and then follow it with a game where he shoots 1 for 19. Again, I liken that to Allen Iverson.</p>
<p>But to the original point of my post, what bothers me is not that the Celtics aren&#8217;t good and deserving of attention, they are. And it isn&#8217;t that Paul Pierce and KG aren&#8217;t good and deserving of attention, they are (Ray Allen isn&#8217;t). What bothers me is that the Celtics, PP, and KG get soooo overhyped bc the sports media loves Boston. And their love of Boston overshines the fact that PP, in my mind, isn&#8217;t clutch (that is debatable, but I need someone to explain to me why in game 7 he didn&#8217;t take the clutch shot and instead PJ Brown did for me to believe that he wants the ball in his hands when the game is on the line). It overshines the fact that KG disappears in the final minutes bc he&#8217;s too unselfish. It overshines the fact that Rivers is a horrific coach and that when he throws Rondo under the bus KG, the supposed leader, doesn&#8217;t stick up for Rondo. And it overshines the fact that they didn&#8217;t need Cassell.</p>
<p>There are certainly plenty of die hard Boston fans, but the overhyped thing around those teams leads to the non-informed bandwagon fans demanding that they pick up Sam Cassell when all the knoledgable real fans are aware that Sam I am isn&#8217;t an upgrade from Rondo.</p>
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		<title>By: chicagogreen</title>
		<link>http://thestormypresentsports.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/boston-doesn%e2%80%99t-deserve-it/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>chicagogreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree kobe over lebron for sure, i wrote lebron then kobe just cause that is how it came into my head, but immediately said, hold on, read that the other way around. 

After last night&#039;s game I wish he would stop deferring and chuck up more stuff since RA&#039;s stuff isn&#039;t working and KG refuses to do it.  somebody has to do it and pp seems like the best option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree kobe over lebron for sure, i wrote lebron then kobe just cause that is how it came into my head, but immediately said, hold on, read that the other way around. </p>
<p>After last night&#8217;s game I wish he would stop deferring and chuck up more stuff since RA&#8217;s stuff isn&#8217;t working and KG refuses to do it.  somebody has to do it and pp seems like the best option.</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 10:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me try to respond to everyone in an orderly manner.

1. Me, is Boston really a college sports town? I honeslty don&#039;t know. As a Southerner I just sort of write off the North as pro sports fanatics and the South is college sports fanatics. Maybe Boston is a pocket of college fans, but to me that sort of feels like bandwagoning. Like if you asked a BC student who their favorite team was they&#039;d say Red Sox, Pats, or Celtics and not BC. But like I said, I don&#039;t know that.

2. As for Paul Pierce, I like your comment, but I disagree with you. Maybe disinterested is the wrong way to put it but you have to admit that he has a tendency to get into a phase where he just chucks things up.

3. You wouldn&#039;t rank Kobe above LeBron? I like LeBron more, but Kobe is better on defense so I&#039;d give him the edge. Unless you want to factor in their effect on team chemistry or contract length and age I don&#039;t see how I could, as of right now, rank LeBron over Kobe.

4. Back to Paul. He is a good player. I think he chucks it up as I said in point number 2, but even if we forget that let me list some non-bigs I&#039;d rather have than Paul if I were a GM:

Melo - can&#039;t shot 3s but younger and drives and post up better than Pierce. I think he&#039;s about even with Pierce, so this one is more of a toss up.


Wade - injury prone, which Pierce is not, but I think he&#039;d make your team more dynamic that Pierce would. He can play the point, which is invaluable, or the shooting guard where guys like Pierce can&#039;t gaurd him cause he&#039;s too quick.

Chris Paul/Deron Williams - young point guards about to become great players.

5. Again, Pierce is good and can play the 2 or 3, which is nice, but I&#039;m not as sold on his defense as you are and it kills me when he starts throwing up bad jumpers for no reason. Still, can he compete with Kobe and LeBron? Sometimes. But there&#039;s not consistency and at teh end of the game he does one of two things; throw up a bad shot or defer to someone else. That isn&#039;t clutch. I can&#039;t remember when this was, but wasn&#039;t there a game where he had two free throws at the end of a playoff series to win the game and he missed them because his knees were visably shaking?

Overall, Pierce to me is like a less talented but taller version of Allen Iverson. He has skills, but sometimes they get in the way of winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me try to respond to everyone in an orderly manner.</p>
<p>1. Me, is Boston really a college sports town? I honeslty don&#8217;t know. As a Southerner I just sort of write off the North as pro sports fanatics and the South is college sports fanatics. Maybe Boston is a pocket of college fans, but to me that sort of feels like bandwagoning. Like if you asked a BC student who their favorite team was they&#8217;d say Red Sox, Pats, or Celtics and not BC. But like I said, I don&#8217;t know that.</p>
<p>2. As for Paul Pierce, I like your comment, but I disagree with you. Maybe disinterested is the wrong way to put it but you have to admit that he has a tendency to get into a phase where he just chucks things up.</p>
<p>3. You wouldn&#8217;t rank Kobe above LeBron? I like LeBron more, but Kobe is better on defense so I&#8217;d give him the edge. Unless you want to factor in their effect on team chemistry or contract length and age I don&#8217;t see how I could, as of right now, rank LeBron over Kobe.</p>
<p>4. Back to Paul. He is a good player. I think he chucks it up as I said in point number 2, but even if we forget that let me list some non-bigs I&#8217;d rather have than Paul if I were a GM:</p>
<p>Melo &#8211; can&#8217;t shot 3s but younger and drives and post up better than Pierce. I think he&#8217;s about even with Pierce, so this one is more of a toss up.</p>
<p>Wade &#8211; injury prone, which Pierce is not, but I think he&#8217;d make your team more dynamic that Pierce would. He can play the point, which is invaluable, or the shooting guard where guys like Pierce can&#8217;t gaurd him cause he&#8217;s too quick.</p>
<p>Chris Paul/Deron Williams &#8211; young point guards about to become great players.</p>
<p>5. Again, Pierce is good and can play the 2 or 3, which is nice, but I&#8217;m not as sold on his defense as you are and it kills me when he starts throwing up bad jumpers for no reason. Still, can he compete with Kobe and LeBron? Sometimes. But there&#8217;s not consistency and at teh end of the game he does one of two things; throw up a bad shot or defer to someone else. That isn&#8217;t clutch. I can&#8217;t remember when this was, but wasn&#8217;t there a game where he had two free throws at the end of a playoff series to win the game and he missed them because his knees were visably shaking?</p>
<p>Overall, Pierce to me is like a less talented but taller version of Allen Iverson. He has skills, but sometimes they get in the way of winning.</p>
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		<title>By: chicagogreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>chicagogreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by, not buy, sorry shoulda proof read</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by, not buy, sorry shoulda proof read</p>
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		<title>By: chicagogreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>chicagogreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fine, fine and fine, but you lose almost all credibility when you describe paul pierce as oscillating between disinterest and ball-hogedness or simply calling him not-clutch.  For non-bigs and non-point gaurds there are two guys that stand above the rest, Lebron and Kobe (in the other order) - other then those two there is nobody better than pierce.  He has the Lebron advantage of being bigger and stronger than everbody else he plays against besides lebron and he is so big and strong that that really bothers lebron who is used to having a bigger advantage in that department.  He plays d very well, better than lebron, adding serious length and strength to the perimeter d, he boards as well as anybody at the 3 besides marion and odom but marion really played the four and odom really is a 4, only kobe&#039;s offense is plainly better than his, he is a pure shooter, his footwork is flawless, he can post up, slash without the the ball, create space for a step-back that he drills, hit threes, hit free-throws, handle the ball(so long as he has team-mates to pass to) and he is the one guy that can always create his own shot.  Bigs and PG&#039;s are hard to come buy, lebrons and kobes should bever carry s&#039;s at the end because they happen once every ten or twenty years if we are lucky, short of that, there is nobody in the league I would rather have than paul pierce.  go ahead, try to name some, ginobili? wade? mcgrady? prince?  none of these guys really match up.  

Again, not really disputing your piece, but I can&#039;t even get to that point if I have to go through your characterization of paul pierce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fine, fine and fine, but you lose almost all credibility when you describe paul pierce as oscillating between disinterest and ball-hogedness or simply calling him not-clutch.  For non-bigs and non-point gaurds there are two guys that stand above the rest, Lebron and Kobe (in the other order) &#8211; other then those two there is nobody better than pierce.  He has the Lebron advantage of being bigger and stronger than everbody else he plays against besides lebron and he is so big and strong that that really bothers lebron who is used to having a bigger advantage in that department.  He plays d very well, better than lebron, adding serious length and strength to the perimeter d, he boards as well as anybody at the 3 besides marion and odom but marion really played the four and odom really is a 4, only kobe&#8217;s offense is plainly better than his, he is a pure shooter, his footwork is flawless, he can post up, slash without the the ball, create space for a step-back that he drills, hit threes, hit free-throws, handle the ball(so long as he has team-mates to pass to) and he is the one guy that can always create his own shot.  Bigs and PG&#8217;s are hard to come buy, lebrons and kobes should bever carry s&#8217;s at the end because they happen once every ten or twenty years if we are lucky, short of that, there is nobody in the league I would rather have than paul pierce.  go ahead, try to name some, ginobili? wade? mcgrady? prince?  none of these guys really match up.  </p>
<p>Again, not really disputing your piece, but I can&#8217;t even get to that point if I have to go through your characterization of paul pierce.</p>
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		<title>By: Celtics247.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s Links 5/26</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celtics247.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s Links 5/26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] through injury  HoopsAddict  Celtics continue to thrive despite shaky point guard play SP Sports  Boston doesn&#8217;t deserve it  FanHouse  Kobe, a shirtless dwarf and a pool of snakes  LA Times  Bill Walton keeping in touch with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, that&#039;s cool. I just didn&#039;t want you to think that all Boston sports fans are raving idiots. Another point may be that Boston is a big college town, so they obviously get a lot of bandwagoners from all the local colleges as well, which adds even more to the hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, that&#8217;s cool. I just didn&#8217;t want you to think that all Boston sports fans are raving idiots. Another point may be that Boston is a big college town, so they obviously get a lot of bandwagoners from all the local colleges as well, which adds even more to the hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 11:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH, and you&#039;re absolutely right about Laker fans being bandwagoner. However, I think most people realize that and accept it. When the Hawks came out of no where Atlanta people got on the bandwagon, Jim wrote a post about it a while ago on this site, but we all admitted it. It&#039;s like pleading guilty.

With the Red Sox and Celtics there are bandwagon fans but somehow the media and even society perpetuate this idea that ALL Boston fans are REAL fans who are knowledgable.

I just want the media to stop treating the Celtics and Sox as if this weren&#039;t true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, and you&#8217;re absolutely right about Laker fans being bandwagoner. However, I think most people realize that and accept it. When the Hawks came out of no where Atlanta people got on the bandwagon, Jim wrote a post about it a while ago on this site, but we all admitted it. It&#8217;s like pleading guilty.</p>
<p>With the Red Sox and Celtics there are bandwagon fans but somehow the media and even society perpetuate this idea that ALL Boston fans are REAL fans who are knowledgable.</p>
<p>I just want the media to stop treating the Celtics and Sox as if this weren&#8217;t true.</p>
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